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Protect your art career. please watch this video and spread it. Make the change. This is very important. [link]
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RebellingLemming Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yes! 
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Chadwick-J-Coleman Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you Stephen. With you 100% I also shouted you out on fb in my own post.

www.facebook.com/chadwick.j.co…

cheers,

~Chad C.
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MMStudiotrademark Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013  Hobbyist
This is one reason why I still have not fully returned to da. Last year a cyber bully was stealing my cartoons & saying he created them when he hadn't. I still draw my cartoons in my spare time because I love drawing cartoons, but have not gotten nerve enough to post them here yet. I guess that doesn't make much sense, but let's just say I am rather protective of my work.
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TemariTrainer Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Sad, but very true.
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The1stMoyatia Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You are a good Samaritan for posting this word of advice.
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Mali-B Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
So true...
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AprilMcGuire Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013   Digital Artist
Why isn't this a DD?? This needs to spread like wildfire! :D
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weaselton Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2013
I subscribed to your You tube over that video.
I am not an artist by trade nor ever will be, but to see other people be so silly and throw their time away just irritates me.
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Twinimation Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013   Filmographer
Thank you so much for your advice!
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SumonAngelo Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hats off for you for such a very very IMPORTANT commentary..............
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Sentinel103 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
You tell em like it is Stephan and that goes for most professions.
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itsbetsy Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thank you sir! *salute*
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TaDL Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
I agree with this statement completely. I saw this type of exploiting when I was starting out around the age of 18 ( in the comic industry alot of times) they do this whole " we'll pay you if the book sales" because they won't give new artist pay by page rate, or they won't even pay you cuz the book never got published. It's probably the most frustrating thing to be exploited like that, and so many artist support this in the comic industry because they had to go through it and don't realize how wrong it is.
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Sanity-X Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I will take this lesson to heart. Thanks, Stephen! ^_^
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Tigerhawk01 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Aye Aye Capin'.
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Parmjeet-Johal Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
thanks for the video, I had this advice from an artist at a lecture I went to, so this only affirms my stance on this matter. Btw where are you from, you sound a bit english in places, your accent I mean, I am from England, interesting accent you got.
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stephensilver Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013
born in london, and moved to states when i was 10
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andynortonuk Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
This is some very important advice. I will take this stuff on board.
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Casperium Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I agree, an artist should be paid their worth and it is horrible that they try to get the work for free.
Having said that, I started out doing it almost for free just because I was so happy that anyone actually liked my art. I did it for fun, not as a business. So I traded my artwork for merchandise that it was going to be on, since I loved the Firefly franchise so much. I did that a couple of times and was happy to do it, then the guy that I was collaborating with (I did the backgrounds for his Maps) said it wasn't fair I wasn't being paid actual money, since he was being paid, and insisted that the company pay me. And they did.
Since then more work has come my way, TV, movies, books etc and i am being paid. Granted I doubt I am being paid nearly what professionals used to get, but in this day and age of internet they can go overseas and get it almost for free. But they keep coming back to me because they like the "look" of my art. I am not trying to make a living off of my art, I do it for fun and for the name credit/recognition, but if you are an artist trying to make a living then you should be PAID a fair wage and insist on name credit or IMDB credit, because you are worth it.
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cretineb Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
Mark Evanier again:

"Every time someone tramples on our work — ruins it, changes it, mauls it, damages it — it’s because they have no respect for it. And, generally speaking, they have no respect for that which cost them nothing."

From Jurassic Park- always loved this line... I think it says a lot about the people who take our work for granted:

"It didn’t acquire any discipline to attain it... You didn’t earn the knowledge for yourself so therefore you don’t take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could and before you even knew what you had, you patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a plastic lunch box, and now your selling it! You wanna sell it!"

Might as well say it-Human beings have no respect for that which costs them nothing. I often find myself saying or thinking, "If what I do is so frickin' easy, why don't YOU do it?" It's NOT easy- most people can't do it- that's why they need us.

Think about this: After reading, writing (although letter icons are "drawn", not "written"), math, science, and history- drawing (not art per se) is the most important dicipline humanity has ever known. In our modern world, every product, building, bridge, dam, vehicle etc., must be designed before it is built. It must be drawn- EVERYTHING. That's how important we are.
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cretineb Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
Oh and another thing I've noticed...

Some of the folks (more than two) I work for have begun to ask me to perform non-artistic (non-drawing/color/ink) tasks that were not included in the contract. Set type, format a page... In-house designer type stuff. I've spoken with other artists who have noticed the same sort of thing. I belive that some publishers are trying to cut corners (save money) any way they can because the economy sucks so bad. This stuff almost never happened to me five years ago.
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WhiteLigra Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Student
Soooo true!
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cretineb Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
I agree completely, as does Mark Evanier- who related the following essay which I highly reccomend:
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In it he relates a eerily similar experience...


Sergio Aragonés, once was selling some sketches he'd done. A browser was interested in one but blanched at the hundred-buck price tag.

"How long did it take you to draw that?" he asked.

"About a half-hour," Sergio answered.

The man was horrified: "You expect me to pay you a hundred dollars for a half-hour's work?"

Sergio showed uncommon restraint — at least for Sergio. He calmly said, "You're not paying for the half-hour it took me to do the drawing. You're paying for the forty-one years it took me to learn how to do that."
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djgaijin Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2013
And anybody who posts a "job offer" with no offer of pay should be beaten about the head with a rolled-up copy of it.
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djgaijin Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2013
That Evanier essay should be plastered all over dA and tumblr.
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Phylicia2D3D Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Student Filmographer
Which essay?
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djgaijin Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013
The one linked in the post by ~cretineb that I was replying to.
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cretineb Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013
I agree- required reading.

EB
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Robo-Shark Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Can't say how many times I've been burned by "great opportunities" to work for someone. Saw this video on Tumblr a little bit ago and I support your advice one hundred percent. Hope some more artists will begin to have the confidence to put their foot down and say no to this kind of thing!
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TimTownsend Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Professional General Artist
AMEN!
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VoIkArmiya Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
Hahaha, I saw this and first thought "Oh man, somebody's bandwagoning Stephen Silver". D'oh.
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togharajee Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
TODAY IS TOO MUCH RAINY DAY AND LYING SNOW TOO MUCH
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RoCueto Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Word!
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KCRJrArts Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I can truly agree with this argument. However, it would be nice to see an influential figure speak on how folks can enter this industry by way of the independent crowds. This discussion tends to neglect the possibilities of investing or fostering self-motivated projects, at least in the "echo chamber" of the internet in the main stream. In any case, great points made.
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Almy-Nol Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
Yes sir! :iconsaluteplz:
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jackanarchy99 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Joker: If you're good at something, never do it for free.
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ipzofakto Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
You should also add, "don't sell your labor for lower than minimum wage".
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CoffeeGoblet Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional
all my likes. go to you. I hate it when DA and Tumblr artists sell themselves for $5-10. It makes you look bad and it makes everyone else look bad.
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dwilliams Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
That YouTube video really was remarkable; thank you for making it.
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Kata Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Agreed and I think this is a great message. I saw your youtube video as well, again, great message. I'm curious as to what sparked it all but I'm glad that this is getting out there. It hurts us all and really just pisses me off when people expect artists to work for free, especially when they further belittle our profession in thinking we do this simply 'for fun' or think we're of any less value than any other professional they would hire. Hell they wouldn't expect a janitor to sweep the floor for free, or a secretary to answer phones for free, why expect it from us?
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slifertheskydragon Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
why is the title a bunch of numbers?
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stephensilver Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
did it. thanks
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stephensilver Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
good question, not sure, trying to figure out how to change it
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